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Simon Glet
Hello,

I am testing XWiki (2.1.1, PostgreSQL, XP SP3) for our organisation and I am running into some problems with the office import feature. The document and am trying to import is an odt document with one line. This is the stack trace I get :

8-Feb-2010 4:05:09 PM net.sf.jodconverter.office.OfficeConnection connect
INFO: connected: 'socket,host=127.0.0.1,port=8100,tcpNoDelay=1'
2010-02-08 16:06:45,787 [http://localhost:8082/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/OfficeImporterResults] ERROR rterVelocityContextInit
ializer  - Error while performing conversion.
org.xwiki.officeimporter.OfficeImporterException: Error while performing conversion.
        at org.xwiki.officeimporter.internal.openoffice.DefaultOpenOfficeDocumentConverter.convert(DefaultOpenOfficeDocu
mentConverter.java:181)
        at org.xwiki.officeimporter.internal.builder.DefaultXHTMLOfficeDocumentBuilder.build(DefaultXHTMLOfficeDocumentB
uilder.java:84)
        at org.xwiki.officeimporter.internal.DefaultOfficeImporter.importStream(DefaultOfficeImporter.java:125)
        at org.xwiki.officeimporter.internal.OfficeImporterVelocityBridge.importDocument(OfficeImporterVelocityBridge.ja
va:97)
        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at org.apache.velocity.util.introspection.UberspectImpl$VelMethodImpl.doInvoke(UberspectImpl.java:389)
        at org.apache.velocity.util.introspection.UberspectImpl$VelMethodImpl.invoke(UberspectImpl.java:378)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTMethod.execute(ASTMethod.java:270)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTReference.execute(ASTReference.java:252)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTReference.value(ASTReference.java:493)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTExpression.value(ASTExpression.java:71)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTSetDirective.render(ASTSetDirective.java:142)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTBlock.render(ASTBlock.java:72)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTIfStatement.render(ASTIfStatement.java:87)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTBlock.render(ASTBlock.java:72)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.SimpleNode.render(SimpleNode.java:336)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTIfStatement.render(ASTIfStatement.java:106)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.SimpleNode.render(SimpleNode.java:336)
        at org.xwiki.velocity.internal.DefaultVelocityEngine.evaluate(DefaultVelocityEngine.java:191)
        at org.xwiki.velocity.internal.DefaultVelocityEngine.evaluate(DefaultVelocityEngine.java:156)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.render.XWikiVelocityRenderer.evaluate(XWikiVelocityRenderer.java:116)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.render.XWikiVelocityRenderer.render(XWikiVelocityRenderer.java:93)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.render.DefaultXWikiRenderingEngine.renderText(DefaultXWikiRenderingEngine.java:272)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.render.DefaultXWikiRenderingEngine.renderText(DefaultXWikiRenderingEngine.java:202)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.render.DefaultXWikiRenderingEngine.renderText(DefaultXWikiRenderingEngine.java:170)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.render.DefaultXWikiRenderingEngine.renderDocument(DefaultXWikiRenderingEngine.java:159)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.doc.XWikiDocument.getRenderedContent(XWikiDocument.java:566)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.doc.XWikiDocument.getRenderedContent(XWikiDocument.java:583)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.api.Document.getRenderedContent(Document.java:475)
        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor258.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at org.apache.velocity.util.introspection.UberspectImpl$VelMethodImpl.doInvoke(UberspectImpl.java:389)
        at org.apache.velocity.util.introspection.UberspectImpl$VelMethodImpl.invoke(UberspectImpl.java:378)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTMethod.execute(ASTMethod.java:270)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTReference.execute(ASTReference.java:252)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTReference.value(ASTReference.java:493)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTExpression.value(ASTExpression.java:71)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTSetDirective.render(ASTSetDirective.java:142)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTBlock.render(ASTBlock.java:72)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.SimpleNode.render(SimpleNode.java:336)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTIfStatement.render(ASTIfStatement.java:106)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.SimpleNode.render(SimpleNode.java:336)
        at org.xwiki.velocity.internal.DefaultVelocityEngine.evaluate(DefaultVelocityEngine.java:191)
        at org.xwiki.velocity.internal.DefaultVelocityEngine.evaluate(DefaultVelocityEngine.java:156)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.render.XWikiVelocityRenderer.evaluate(XWikiVelocityRenderer.java:116)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.XWiki.parseTemplate(XWiki.java:1710)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.XWiki.parseTemplate(XWiki.java:1631)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.api.XWiki.parseTemplate(XWiki.java:657)
        at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor86.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
        at org.apache.velocity.util.introspection.UberspectImpl$VelMethodImpl.doInvoke(UberspectImpl.java:389)
        at org.apache.velocity.util.introspection.UberspectImpl$VelMethodImpl.invoke(UberspectImpl.java:378)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTMethod.execute(ASTMethod.java:270)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTReference.execute(ASTReference.java:252)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTReference.render(ASTReference.java:332)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTBlock.render(ASTBlock.java:72)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.directive.VelocimacroProxy.render(VelocimacroProxy.java:212)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.directive.RuntimeMacro.render(RuntimeMacro.java:247)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTDirective.render(ASTDirective.java:175)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTBlock.render(ASTBlock.java:72)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTIfStatement.render(ASTIfStatement.java:87)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTBlock.render(ASTBlock.java:72)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.SimpleNode.render(SimpleNode.java:336)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.ASTIfStatement.render(ASTIfStatement.java:106)
        at org.apache.velocity.runtime.parser.node.SimpleNode.render(SimpleNode.java:336)
        at org.xwiki.velocity.internal.DefaultVelocityEngine.evaluate(DefaultVelocityEngine.java:191)
        at org.xwiki.velocity.internal.DefaultVelocityEngine.evaluate(DefaultVelocityEngine.java:156)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.render.XWikiVelocityRenderer.evaluate(XWikiVelocityRenderer.java:116)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.XWiki.parseTemplate(XWiki.java:1710)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.XWiki.parseTemplate(XWiki.java:1631)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.web.Utils.parseTemplate(Utils.java:123)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.web.XWikiAction.execute(XWikiAction.java:224)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.web.XWikiAction.execute(XWikiAction.java:115)
        at org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.processActionPerform(RequestProcessor.java:431)
        at org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.process(RequestProcessor.java:236)
        at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.process(ActionServlet.java:1196)
        at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.doPost(ActionServlet.java:432)
        at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:727)
        at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:820)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:511)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1166)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.wysiwyg.server.filter.ConversionFilter.doFilter(ConversionFilter.java:152)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.web.ActionFilter.doFilter(ActionFilter.java:117)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.plugin.webdav.XWikiDavFilter.doFilter(XWikiDavFilter.java:68)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.web.SavedRequestRestorerFilter.doFilter(SavedRequestRestorerFilter.java:295)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
        at com.xpn.xwiki.web.SetCharacterEncodingFilter.doFilter(SetCharacterEncodingFilter.java:112)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:388)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java:216)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java:182)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:765)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.handle(WebAppContext.java:418)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandlerCollection.handle(ContextHandlerCollection.java:230)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerCollection.handle(HandlerCollection.java:114)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:152)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:326)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:536)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection$RequestHandler.content(HttpConnection.java:930)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:747)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseAvailable(HttpParser.java:212)
        at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:405)
        at org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint.run(SelectChannelEndPoint.java:409)
        at org.mortbay.thread.QueuedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(QueuedThreadPool.java:582)
Caused by: net.sf.jodconverter.office.OfficeException: could not complete task
        at net.sf.jodconverter.office.ManagedProcessOfficeManager.execute(ManagedProcessOfficeManager.java:95)
        at net.sf.jodconverter.OfficeDocumentConverter.convert(OfficeDocumentConverter.java:71)
        at org.xwiki.officeimporter.internal.openoffice.DefaultOpenOfficeDocumentConverter.convert(DefaultOpenOfficeDocu
mentConverter.java:178)
        ... 111 more
Caused by: java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException: java.lang.reflect.UndeclaredThrowableException
        at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerGet(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.get(Unknown Source)
        at net.sf.jodconverter.office.ManagedProcessOfficeManager.execute(ManagedProcessOfficeManager.java:90)
        ... 113 more
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.UndeclaredThrowableException
        at $Proxy33.loadComponentFromURL(Unknown Source)
        at net.sf.jodconverter.AbstractConversionTask.execute(AbstractConversionTask.java:58)
        at net.sf.jodconverter.office.ManagedProcessOfficeManager$2.run(ManagedProcessOfficeManager.java:85)
        at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: com.sun.star.loader.CannotActivateFactoryException: loading component library failed: file:///C:/Program%20Fi
les/OpenOffice.org%203/program/../Basis/program/i18npool.uno.dll
        at com.sun.star.lib.uno.environments.remote.Job.remoteUnoRequestRaisedException(Job.java:182)
        at com.sun.star.lib.uno.environments.remote.Job.execute(Job.java:148)
        at com.sun.star.lib.uno.environments.remote.JobQueue.enter(JobQueue.java:344)
        at com.sun.star.lib.uno.environments.remote.JobQueue.enter(JobQueue.java:313)
        at com.sun.star.lib.uno.environments.remote.JavaThreadPool.enter(JavaThreadPool.java:101)
        at com.sun.star.lib.uno.bridges.java_remote.java_remote_bridge.sendRequest(java_remote_bridge.java:652)
        at com.sun.star.lib.uno.bridges.java_remote.ProxyFactory$Handler.request(ProxyFactory.java:154)
        at com.sun.star.lib.uno.bridges.java_remote.ProxyFactory$Handler.invoke(ProxyFactory.java:136)
        ... 9 more

I have checked that i18npool.uno.dll is on my system and it is at the specified path. So how can I fix my problem ?

Thanks
Simon Glet
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Re: Office import error

Asiri Rathnayake
Hi,

As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo installation.
Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most probably fix
the issue.

- Asiri
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Re: Office import error

Simon Glet
Hi Asiri,

I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
can I check ?

Thanks
Simon Glet

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo installation.
> Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
> latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most probably fix
> the issue.
>
> - Asiri
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
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Re: Office import error

Asiri Rathnayake
Hi,

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Asiri,
>
> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
> can I check ?
>

Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
this will help.

Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert your
document from odt to html.

Here is the link:

http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/

How to use it:

http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted

If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.

Thanks.

- Asiri


>
> Thanks
> Simon Glet
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
> installation.
> > Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
> > latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most probably
> fix
> > the issue.
> >
> > - Asiri
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
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Re: Office import error

Simon Glet
Hi Asiri,

I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :

- Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
- Document import (There is no documentation about version
compatibility between the different elements)
- Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL though.

I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.

Best Regards
Simon Glet

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Asiri,
>>
>> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
>> can I check ?
>>
>
> Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
> this will help.
>
> Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert your
> document from odt to html.
>
> Here is the link:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
>
> How to use it:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
>
> If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
> should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Asiri
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Simon Glet
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
>> installation.
>> > Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
>> > latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most probably
>> fix
>> > the issue.
>> >
>> > - Asiri
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > users mailing list
>> > [hidden email]
>> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> users mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
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Re: Office import error

Guillaume Lerouge
Hi Simon,

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Asiri,
>
> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm pretty sure that if you're ready to spend a bit
more time on this we can help you overcome the issues you're facing and help
make XWiki a better product as a result. Open-Source software such as XWiki
improves thanks to the feedback of its users and you can help us make more
useful to the community.

- Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
>

Would you be ok to describe the problems you're experiencing in more detail
and post screenshots and / or steps to reproduce on http://jira.xwiki.org/ ?
I'm sure that Florin, the lead developer on XOffice, would be happy to help
you make things work.


> - Document import (There is no documentation about version compatibility
> between the different elements)
>

I have to agree that documentation isn't one of XWiki's strongest assets.
However I've been using the document import feature on several XE 2.1.1
instances where it works just fine thus I'm pretty sure you can make it work
too. Asiri suggested several steps to debug, have you tried following them?


> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
> though.
>

Is SQL Server 2005 a hard requirement? Which errors do you meet? Would you
agree to report those errors on http://jira.xwiki.org/ ? Do you need XWiki
to work with a product released 5 years ago that much? What's not enough it
works fine with PostgreSQL?

I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>

It is and your feedback could help us make it that much better. I'd be very
happy if you were to agree to reconsider your current stance and give a
little of your time to the community in order to help us make XWiki fit your
needs.

Guillaume


> Best Regards
> Simon Glet
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Asiri,
> >>
> >> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
> >> can I check ?
> >>
> >
> > Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
> > this will help.
> >
> > Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert
> your
> > document from odt to html.
> >
> > Here is the link:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
> >
> > How to use it:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
> >
> > If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
> > should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > - Asiri
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Simon Glet
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
> >> installation.
> >> > Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
> >> > latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most
> probably
> >> fix
> >> > the issue.
> >> >
> >> > - Asiri
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > users mailing list
> >> > [hidden email]
> >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> users mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>



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Re: Office import error

Asiri Rathnayake
Hi,

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Guillaume Lerouge <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Asiri,
> >
> > I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
> > find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
> >
>
> I'm sorry to hear that. I'm pretty sure that if you're ready to spend a bit
> more time on this we can help you overcome the issues you're facing and
> help
> make XWiki a better product as a result. Open-Source software such as XWiki
> improves thanks to the feedback of its users and you can help us make more
> useful to the community.
>
> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
> >
>
> Would you be ok to describe the problems you're experiencing in more detail
> and post screenshots and / or steps to reproduce on http://jira.xwiki.org/?
> I'm sure that Florin, the lead developer on XOffice, would be happy to help
> you make things work.
>
>
> > - Document import (There is no documentation about version compatibility
> > between the different elements)
> >
>
> I have to agree that documentation isn't one of XWiki's strongest assets.
> However I've been using the document import feature on several XE 2.1.1
> instances where it works just fine thus I'm pretty sure you can make it
> work
> too. Asiri suggested several steps to debug, have you tried following them?
>
>
> > - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
> > though.
> >
>
> Is SQL Server 2005 a hard requirement? Which errors do you meet? Would you
> agree to report those errors on http://jira.xwiki.org/ ? Do you need XWiki
> to work with a product released 5 years ago that much? What's not enough it
> works fine with PostgreSQL?
>
> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
> >
>
> It is and your feedback could help us make it that much better. I'd be very
> happy if you were to agree to reconsider your current stance and give a
> little of your time to the community in order to help us make XWiki fit
> your
> needs.
>

+ XWiki SAS <http://www.xwiki.com> offers support and hosting packages to
meet all your XWiki needs. This will also benefit the XWiki opensource
project :)

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Simon Glet
> + XWiki SAS <http://www.xwiki.com> offers support and hosting packages to
> meet all your XWiki needs. This will also benefit the XWiki opensource
> project :)
>
> - Asiri

Asiri :
With such a statement, one might think that it is difficult to setup
in order to need commercial support :-)

Guillaume :
As much as I agree that user feedback is crucial to a project's
quality, 2.1.1 is a production release not a rc or beta so such
problems should not occur. As we are looking for an immediate usage, I
can't see myself going to management with such visible features not
working. Nevertheless, in the next few days I will document the
encountered problems on your bug tracking system.

Best Regards
Simon Glet


On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Guillaume Lerouge <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Asiri,
>> >
>> > I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
>> > find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>> >
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear that. I'm pretty sure that if you're ready to spend a bit
>> more time on this we can help you overcome the issues you're facing and
>> help
>> make XWiki a better product as a result. Open-Source software such as XWiki
>> improves thanks to the feedback of its users and you can help us make more
>> useful to the community.
>>
>> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
>> >
>>
>> Would you be ok to describe the problems you're experiencing in more detail
>> and post screenshots and / or steps to reproduce on http://jira.xwiki.org/?
>> I'm sure that Florin, the lead developer on XOffice, would be happy to help
>> you make things work.
>>
>>
>> > - Document import (There is no documentation about version compatibility
>> > between the different elements)
>> >
>>
>> I have to agree that documentation isn't one of XWiki's strongest assets.
>> However I've been using the document import feature on several XE 2.1.1
>> instances where it works just fine thus I'm pretty sure you can make it
>> work
>> too. Asiri suggested several steps to debug, have you tried following them?
>>
>>
>> > - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
>> > though.
>> >
>>
>> Is SQL Server 2005 a hard requirement? Which errors do you meet? Would you
>> agree to report those errors on http://jira.xwiki.org/ ? Do you need XWiki
>> to work with a product released 5 years ago that much? What's not enough it
>> works fine with PostgreSQL?
>>
>> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>> >
>>
>> It is and your feedback could help us make it that much better. I'd be very
>> happy if you were to agree to reconsider your current stance and give a
>> little of your time to the community in order to help us make XWiki fit
>> your
>> needs.
>>
>
> + XWiki SAS <http://www.xwiki.com> offers support and hosting packages to
> meet all your XWiki needs. This will also benefit the XWiki opensource
> project :)
>
> - Asiri
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list
> [hidden email]
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Re: Office import error

Guillaume Lerouge
Hi Simon,

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > + XWiki SAS <http://www.xwiki.com> offers support and hosting packages
> to
> > meet all your XWiki needs. This will also benefit the XWiki opensource
> > project :)
> >
> > - Asiri
>
> Asiri :
> With such a statement, one might think that it is difficult to setup
> in order to need commercial support :-)
>

Indeed :-) We actually never voluntarily made XWiki complicated to use,
which is a nice testimonial to our Open-Source commitment while at the same
time an acknowledgement of our current QA & usability flaws.

Guillaume :
> As much as I agree that user feedback is crucial to a project's
> quality, 2.1.1 is a production release not a rc or beta so such
> problems should not occur. As we are looking for an immediate usage, I
> can't see myself going to management with such visible features not
> working. Nevertheless, in the next few days I will document the
> encountered problems on your bug tracking system.
>

I see. Indeed, given your short deployment timeframe recommending XWiki
would be a bit risky. When do you plan to put your new collaboration
solution in production? Anyway, thanks for taking the time to provide us
with your feedback, I'm looking forward to your additions to JIRA.

I'd be interested in knowing which piece of software you'll be using instead
of XWiki and which feature made you choose it instead of XWiki (besides the
issues listed above obviously).

Guillaume

Best Regards

> Simon Glet
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Guillaume Lerouge <[hidden email]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Simon,
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Asiri,
> >> >
> >> > I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
> >> > find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm sorry to hear that. I'm pretty sure that if you're ready to spend a
> bit
> >> more time on this we can help you overcome the issues you're facing and
> >> help
> >> make XWiki a better product as a result. Open-Source software such as
> XWiki
> >> improves thanks to the feedback of its users and you can help us make
> more
> >> useful to the community.
> >>
> >> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
> >> >
> >>
> >> Would you be ok to describe the problems you're experiencing in more
> detail
> >> and post screenshots and / or steps to reproduce on
> http://jira.xwiki.org/?
> >> I'm sure that Florin, the lead developer on XOffice, would be happy to
> help
> >> you make things work.
> >>
> >>
> >> > - Document import (There is no documentation about version
> compatibility
> >> > between the different elements)
> >> >
> >>
> >> I have to agree that documentation isn't one of XWiki's strongest
> assets.
> >> However I've been using the document import feature on several XE 2.1.1
> >> instances where it works just fine thus I'm pretty sure you can make it
> >> work
> >> too. Asiri suggested several steps to debug, have you tried following
> them?
> >>
> >>
> >> > - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
> >> > though.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Is SQL Server 2005 a hard requirement? Which errors do you meet? Would
> you
> >> agree to report those errors on http://jira.xwiki.org/ ? Do you need
> XWiki
> >> to work with a product released 5 years ago that much? What's not enough
> it
> >> works fine with PostgreSQL?
> >>
> >> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It is and your feedback could help us make it that much better. I'd be
> very
> >> happy if you were to agree to reconsider your current stance and give a
> >> little of your time to the community in order to help us make XWiki fit
> >> your
> >> needs.
> >>
> >
> > + XWiki SAS <http://www.xwiki.com> offers support and hosting packages
> to
> > meet all your XWiki needs. This will also benefit the XWiki opensource
> > project :)
> >
> > - Asiri
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Office import error

Asiri Rathnayake
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Hi,

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > + XWiki SAS <http://www.xwiki.com> offers support and hosting packages
> to
> > meet all your XWiki needs. This will also benefit the XWiki opensource
> > project :)
> >
> > - Asiri
>
> Asiri :
> With such a statement, one might think that it is difficult to setup
> in order to need commercial support :-)
>

There is a huge number of XWiki deployments around the web and within
organizations. Therefor, I had to assume that here the problem is you are
unable to configure XWiki correctly so that it works as expected. This is
why I suggested you get some support :)

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Re: Office import error

Florin Ciubotaru
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Hi Simon,

On 2/9/2010 8:08 PM, Simon Glet wrote:
> Hi Asiri,
>
> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>
> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
>    
You are probably using a french version of Windows. I know XOffice it's
generally buggy on it, but I need more info in order to fix it.
Re: Your french accents issue is now fixed. Please wait for the next
update or release in order to have it working.

Florin Ciubotaru

> - Document import (There is no documentation about version
> compatibility between the different elements)
> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL though.
>
> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>
> Best Regards
> Simon Glet
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>    
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> Hi Asiri,
>>>
>>> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
>>> can I check ?
>>>
>>>        
>> Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
>> this will help.
>>
>> Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert your
>> document from odt to html.
>>
>> Here is the link:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
>>
>> How to use it:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
>>
>> If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
>> should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Asiri
>>
>>
>>      
>>> Thanks
>>> Simon Glet
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>>> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>>        
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
>>>>          
>>> installation.
>>>        
>>>> Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
>>>> latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most probably
>>>>          
>>> fix
>>>        
>>>> the issue.
>>>>
>>>> - Asiri
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> users mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>
>>>        
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Re: Office import error

jerem
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Hi Simon,

Some words from a long-time user of XWiki ...

I think the issues you encountered might be linked also to the fact that
these features rely on external tools (oo, ms office...), and also they are
quite "recent" in xwiki history. So for sure, all integration issues might
not have been encountered / fixed already.
Of course if you need mainly these features, it might be a problem, but with
some fixes there is no reason they won't work.

For the rest, I must say that on the other side, and even with some (known)
flaws, xwiki is not comparable to other wikis I know. No one offers such
liberty and customization possibilities. I use it for some years now at work
(since v0.9) and migrated regularly to last versions, and progression is
incredible, in terms of features and usability. A good basis is now in
place, and I think not much is needed to have a nearly perfect tool :)
But, again, this tool might need some involvement in order to get its best,
even if it's more and more "plug & play".

I'll take an example, in my office we use a specific configuration
management tool very uncommon, and that is integrated with nothing else. In
wiki I could very easily create some macros to help users create links on
various sources, reports and such in this scm tool. The wysiwyg editor works
really well now, and the new macro displays in a dialog with parameters I
defined, though I didn't code anything for the display. This is really
helpful and really easy to put in place. I don't know much other tools, but
I don't think you can do this kind of thing so easily... For now I did not
install oO server for office import though, but I plan to.


Best regards,
Jeremie

2010/2/9 Simon Glet <[hidden email]>

> Hi Asiri,
>
> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>
> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
> - Document import (There is no documentation about version
> compatibility between the different elements)
> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
> though.
>
> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>
> Best Regards
> Simon Glet
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Asiri,
> >>
> >> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
> >> can I check ?
> >>
> >
> > Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
> > this will help.
> >
> > Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert
> your
> > document from odt to html.
> >
> > Here is the link:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
> >
> > How to use it:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
> >
> > If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
> > should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > - Asiri
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Simon Glet
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
> >> installation.
> >> > Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
> >> > latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most
> probably
> >> fix
> >> > the issue.
> >> >
> >> > - Asiri
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > users mailing list
> >> > [hidden email]
> >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> users mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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Re: Office import error

Simon Glet
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Hi Florin,

I have checked the latest version and french accents work well. I
might add that the fix was done very quickly.

My Windows XP regional setting is set to English-Ca, all my
applications are in english but we communicate in french ;-). In the
next few days, I will reinstall XWiki with the latest XOffice plugin
and document the problems on your tracking system.

Best Regards
Simon Glet

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Florin Ciubotaru
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> On 2/9/2010 8:08 PM, Simon Glet wrote:
>> Hi Asiri,
>>
>> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
>> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>>
>> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
>>
> You are probably using a french version of Windows. I know XOffice it's
> generally buggy on it, but I need more info in order to fix it.
> Re: Your french accents issue is now fixed. Please wait for the next
> update or release in order to have it working.
>
> Florin Ciubotaru
>> - Document import (There is no documentation about version
>> compatibility between the different elements)
>> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL though.
>>
>> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Simon Glet
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Asiri,
>>>>
>>>> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
>>>> can I check ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
>>> this will help.
>>>
>>> Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert your
>>> document from odt to html.
>>>
>>> Here is the link:
>>>
>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
>>>
>>> How to use it:
>>>
>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
>>>
>>> If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
>>> should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> - Asiri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Simon Glet
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>>>> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
>>>>>
>>>> installation.
>>>>
>>>>> Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
>>>>> latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most probably
>>>>>
>>>> fix
>>>>
>>>>> the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Asiri
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> users mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> [hidden email]
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Simon Glet
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Jeremie,

I see your point but I wasn't expecting that much involvement ;-) BTW,
as you speak of customization, I was wondering how to hide the "Import
Office Document" menu. By not offering the option, users will not get
frustrated and would more easily accept the system.

Thanks
Simon Glet

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Jeremie BOUSQUET
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> Some words from a long-time user of XWiki ...
>
> I think the issues you encountered might be linked also to the fact that
> these features rely on external tools (oo, ms office...), and also they are
> quite "recent" in xwiki history. So for sure, all integration issues might
> not have been encountered / fixed already.
> Of course if you need mainly these features, it might be a problem, but with
> some fixes there is no reason they won't work.
>
> For the rest, I must say that on the other side, and even with some (known)
> flaws, xwiki is not comparable to other wikis I know. No one offers such
> liberty and customization possibilities. I use it for some years now at work
> (since v0.9) and migrated regularly to last versions, and progression is
> incredible, in terms of features and usability. A good basis is now in
> place, and I think not much is needed to have a nearly perfect tool :)
> But, again, this tool might need some involvement in order to get its best,
> even if it's more and more "plug & play".
>
> I'll take an example, in my office we use a specific configuration
> management tool very uncommon, and that is integrated with nothing else. In
> wiki I could very easily create some macros to help users create links on
> various sources, reports and such in this scm tool. The wysiwyg editor works
> really well now, and the new macro displays in a dialog with parameters I
> defined, though I didn't code anything for the display. This is really
> helpful and really easy to put in place. I don't know much other tools, but
> I don't think you can do this kind of thing so easily... For now I did not
> install oO server for office import though, but I plan to.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Jeremie
>
> 2010/2/9 Simon Glet <[hidden email]>
>
>> Hi Asiri,
>>
>> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
>> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>>
>> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
>> - Document import (There is no documentation about version
>> compatibility between the different elements)
>> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
>> though.
>>
>> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Simon Glet
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Asiri,
>> >>
>> >> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
>> >> can I check ?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
>> > this will help.
>> >
>> > Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert
>> your
>> > document from odt to html.
>> >
>> > Here is the link:
>> >
>> > http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
>> >
>> > How to use it:
>> >
>> > http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
>> >
>> > If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
>> > should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > - Asiri
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Simon Glet
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>> >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
>> >> installation.
>> >> > Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
>> >> > latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most
>> probably
>> >> fix
>> >> > the issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > - Asiri
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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Asiri Rathnayake
Hi,

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jeremie,
>
> I see your point but I wasn't expecting that much involvement ;-) BTW,
> as you speak of customization, I was wondering how to hide the "Import
> Office Document" menu. By not offering the option, users will not get
> frustrated and would more easily accept the system.
>

We are still working on an application manager that allows you to install /
uninstall whole apps. But for the moment you can delete XWiki.OfficeImporter
page and the menu item will dissapear.

- Asiri
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On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Simon Glet wrote:

> Jeremie,
>
> I see your point but I wasn't expecting that much involvement ;-) BTW,
> as you speak of customization, I was wondering how to hide the "Import
> Office Document" menu. By not offering the option, users will not get
> frustrated and would more easily accept the system.

With the latest XE version (2.2RC1 or even better 2.2RC2 being released right now, will be avail in 2-3 hours) if the office importer page (XWiki.OfficeImporter) is not present the menu item will not be shown. So you can rename that page or delete it (you'd then need to reimport the officeimporter XAR later on if you want it again in this case).

Of course you can also customize the menu vm files to define the rules you want.

Thanks
-Vincent

>
> Thanks
> Simon Glet
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Jeremie BOUSQUET
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> Some words from a long-time user of XWiki ...
>>
>> I think the issues you encountered might be linked also to the fact that
>> these features rely on external tools (oo, ms office...), and also they are
>> quite "recent" in xwiki history. So for sure, all integration issues might
>> not have been encountered / fixed already.
>> Of course if you need mainly these features, it might be a problem, but with
>> some fixes there is no reason they won't work.
>>
>> For the rest, I must say that on the other side, and even with some (known)
>> flaws, xwiki is not comparable to other wikis I know. No one offers such
>> liberty and customization possibilities. I use it for some years now at work
>> (since v0.9) and migrated regularly to last versions, and progression is
>> incredible, in terms of features and usability. A good basis is now in
>> place, and I think not much is needed to have a nearly perfect tool :)
>> But, again, this tool might need some involvement in order to get its best,
>> even if it's more and more "plug & play".
>>
>> I'll take an example, in my office we use a specific configuration
>> management tool very uncommon, and that is integrated with nothing else. In
>> wiki I could very easily create some macros to help users create links on
>> various sources, reports and such in this scm tool. The wysiwyg editor works
>> really well now, and the new macro displays in a dialog with parameters I
>> defined, though I didn't code anything for the display. This is really
>> helpful and really easy to put in place. I don't know much other tools, but
>> I don't think you can do this kind of thing so easily... For now I did not
>> install oO server for office import though, but I plan to.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jeremie
>>
>> 2010/2/9 Simon Glet <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> Hi Asiri,
>>>
>>> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
>>> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>>>
>>> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
>>> - Document import (There is no documentation about version
>>> compatibility between the different elements)
>>> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
>>> though.
>>>
>>> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Simon Glet
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Asiri,
>>>>>
>>>>> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
>>>>> can I check ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
>>>> this will help.
>>>>
>>>> Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert
>>> your
>>>> document from odt to html.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the link:
>>>>
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
>>>>
>>>> How to use it:
>>>>
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
>>>>
>>>> If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
>>>> should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> - Asiri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Simon Glet
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
>>>>> installation.
>>>>>> Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
>>>>>> latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most
>>> probably
>>>>> fix
>>>>>> the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Asiri
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Re: Office import error

Simon Glet
Wow that was fast !

Thanks to Asiri and Vincent.
Simon Glet

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Vincent Massol <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Simon Glet wrote:
>
>> Jeremie,
>>
>> I see your point but I wasn't expecting that much involvement ;-) BTW,
>> as you speak of customization, I was wondering how to hide the "Import
>> Office Document" menu. By not offering the option, users will not get
>> frustrated and would more easily accept the system.
>
> With the latest XE version (2.2RC1 or even better 2.2RC2 being released right now, will be avail in 2-3 hours) if the office importer page (XWiki.OfficeImporter) is not present the menu item will not be shown. So you can rename that page or delete it (you'd then need to reimport the officeimporter XAR later on if you want it again in this case).
>
> Of course you can also customize the menu vm files to define the rules you want.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Simon Glet
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Jeremie BOUSQUET
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi Simon,
>>>
>>> Some words from a long-time user of XWiki ...
>>>
>>> I think the issues you encountered might be linked also to the fact that
>>> these features rely on external tools (oo, ms office...), and also they are
>>> quite "recent" in xwiki history. So for sure, all integration issues might
>>> not have been encountered / fixed already.
>>> Of course if you need mainly these features, it might be a problem, but with
>>> some fixes there is no reason they won't work.
>>>
>>> For the rest, I must say that on the other side, and even with some (known)
>>> flaws, xwiki is not comparable to other wikis I know. No one offers such
>>> liberty and customization possibilities. I use it for some years now at work
>>> (since v0.9) and migrated regularly to last versions, and progression is
>>> incredible, in terms of features and usability. A good basis is now in
>>> place, and I think not much is needed to have a nearly perfect tool :)
>>> But, again, this tool might need some involvement in order to get its best,
>>> even if it's more and more "plug & play".
>>>
>>> I'll take an example, in my office we use a specific configuration
>>> management tool very uncommon, and that is integrated with nothing else. In
>>> wiki I could very easily create some macros to help users create links on
>>> various sources, reports and such in this scm tool. The wysiwyg editor works
>>> really well now, and the new macro displays in a dialog with parameters I
>>> defined, though I didn't code anything for the display. This is really
>>> helpful and really easy to put in place. I don't know much other tools, but
>>> I don't think you can do this kind of thing so easily... For now I did not
>>> install oO server for office import though, but I plan to.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Jeremie
>>>
>>> 2010/2/9 Simon Glet <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> Hi Asiri,
>>>>
>>>> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
>>>> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>>>>
>>>> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
>>>> - Document import (There is no documentation about version
>>>> compatibility between the different elements)
>>>> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Simon Glet
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Asiri,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
>>>>>> can I check ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
>>>>> this will help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert
>>>> your
>>>>> document from odt to html.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the link:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
>>>>>
>>>>> How to use it:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
>>>>>
>>>>> If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
>>>>> should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Asiri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Simon Glet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>> Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
>>>>>>> latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most
>>>> probably
>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>> the issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Asiri
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Simon Glet
Hi,

Just to end this thread, I upgraded to OpenOffice 3.2.0 from 3.1.1 and
after creating the missing directory
(http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XAOFFICE-44), import-export works
fine. Great !!!

Best Regards
Simon Glet

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Wow that was fast !
>
> Thanks to Asiri and Vincent.
> Simon Glet
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Vincent Massol <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Simon Glet wrote:
>>
>>> Jeremie,
>>>
>>> I see your point but I wasn't expecting that much involvement ;-) BTW,
>>> as you speak of customization, I was wondering how to hide the "Import
>>> Office Document" menu. By not offering the option, users will not get
>>> frustrated and would more easily accept the system.
>>
>> With the latest XE version (2.2RC1 or even better 2.2RC2 being released right now, will be avail in 2-3 hours) if the office importer page (XWiki.OfficeImporter) is not present the menu item will not be shown. So you can rename that page or delete it (you'd then need to reimport the officeimporter XAR later on if you want it again in this case).
>>
>> Of course you can also customize the menu vm files to define the rules you want.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Simon Glet
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Jeremie BOUSQUET
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Simon,
>>>>
>>>> Some words from a long-time user of XWiki ...
>>>>
>>>> I think the issues you encountered might be linked also to the fact that
>>>> these features rely on external tools (oo, ms office...), and also they are
>>>> quite "recent" in xwiki history. So for sure, all integration issues might
>>>> not have been encountered / fixed already.
>>>> Of course if you need mainly these features, it might be a problem, but with
>>>> some fixes there is no reason they won't work.
>>>>
>>>> For the rest, I must say that on the other side, and even with some (known)
>>>> flaws, xwiki is not comparable to other wikis I know. No one offers such
>>>> liberty and customization possibilities. I use it for some years now at work
>>>> (since v0.9) and migrated regularly to last versions, and progression is
>>>> incredible, in terms of features and usability. A good basis is now in
>>>> place, and I think not much is needed to have a nearly perfect tool :)
>>>> But, again, this tool might need some involvement in order to get its best,
>>>> even if it's more and more "plug & play".
>>>>
>>>> I'll take an example, in my office we use a specific configuration
>>>> management tool very uncommon, and that is integrated with nothing else. In
>>>> wiki I could very easily create some macros to help users create links on
>>>> various sources, reports and such in this scm tool. The wysiwyg editor works
>>>> really well now, and the new macro displays in a dialog with parameters I
>>>> defined, though I didn't code anything for the display. This is really
>>>> helpful and really easy to put in place. I don't know much other tools, but
>>>> I don't think you can do this kind of thing so easily... For now I did not
>>>> install oO server for office import though, but I plan to.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Jeremie
>>>>
>>>> 2010/2/9 Simon Glet <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Asiri,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
>>>>> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all :
>>>>>
>>>>> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
>>>>> - Document import (There is no documentation about version
>>>>> compatibility between the different elements)
>>>>> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with PostgreSQL
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> Simon Glet
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Asiri,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What else
>>>>>>> can I check ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I doubt
>>>>>> this will help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to convert
>>>>> your
>>>>>> document from odt to html.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the link:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How to use it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the error
>>>>>> should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Asiri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Simon Glet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
>>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>>> Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing the
>>>>>>>> latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most
>>>>> probably
>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>> the issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Asiri
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Re: Office import error

Guillaume Lerouge
Hi Simon,

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just to end this thread, I upgraded to OpenOffice 3.2.0 from 3.1.1 and
> after creating the missing directory
> (http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XAOFFICE-44), import-export works
> fine. Great !!!
>

Glad to see you stick with XWiki long enough to put the effort needed to
make things work fine... Now you'll be rewarded for your patience ;-)

Looking forward to more useful feedback about XWiki,

Guillaume


> Best Regards
> Simon Glet
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Wow that was fast !
> >
> > Thanks to Asiri and Vincent.
> > Simon Glet
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Vincent Massol <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Simon Glet wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jeremie,
> >>>
> >>> I see your point but I wasn't expecting that much involvement ;-) BTW,
> >>> as you speak of customization, I was wondering how to hide the "Import
> >>> Office Document" menu. By not offering the option, users will not get
> >>> frustrated and would more easily accept the system.
> >>
> >> With the latest XE version (2.2RC1 or even better 2.2RC2 being released
> right now, will be avail in 2-3 hours) if the office importer page
> (XWiki.OfficeImporter) is not present the menu item will not be shown. So
> you can rename that page or delete it (you'd then need to reimport the
> officeimporter XAR later on if you want it again in this case).
> >>
> >> Of course you can also customize the menu vm files to define the rules
> you want.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Vincent
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Simon Glet
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Jeremie BOUSQUET
> >>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Simon,
> >>>>
> >>>> Some words from a long-time user of XWiki ...
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the issues you encountered might be linked also to the fact
> that
> >>>> these features rely on external tools (oo, ms office...), and also
> they are
> >>>> quite "recent" in xwiki history. So for sure, all integration issues
> might
> >>>> not have been encountered / fixed already.
> >>>> Of course if you need mainly these features, it might be a problem,
> but with
> >>>> some fixes there is no reason they won't work.
> >>>>
> >>>> For the rest, I must say that on the other side, and even with some
> (known)
> >>>> flaws, xwiki is not comparable to other wikis I know. No one offers
> such
> >>>> liberty and customization possibilities. I use it for some years now
> at work
> >>>> (since v0.9) and migrated regularly to last versions, and progression
> is
> >>>> incredible, in terms of features and usability. A good basis is now in
> >>>> place, and I think not much is needed to have a nearly perfect tool :)
> >>>> But, again, this tool might need some involvement in order to get its
> best,
> >>>> even if it's more and more "plug & play".
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll take an example, in my office we use a specific configuration
> >>>> management tool very uncommon, and that is integrated with nothing
> else. In
> >>>> wiki I could very easily create some macros to help users create links
> on
> >>>> various sources, reports and such in this scm tool. The wysiwyg editor
> works
> >>>> really well now, and the new macro displays in a dialog with
> parameters I
> >>>> defined, though I didn't code anything for the display. This is really
> >>>> helpful and really easy to put in place. I don't know much other
> tools, but
> >>>> I don't think you can do this kind of thing so easily... For now I did
> not
> >>>> install oO server for office import though, but I plan to.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Jeremie
> >>>>
> >>>> 2010/2/9 Simon Glet <[hidden email]>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Asiri,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am a little confused by the quality of XWiki 2.1.1. At this point I
> >>>>> find that there are many features that don't work properly or at all
> :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Office plugin (the office 2007 ribbon has a very buggy behavior)
> >>>>> - Document import (There is no documentation about version
> >>>>> compatibility between the different elements)
> >>>>> - Usage with SQL Server 2005 is impossible. Works fine with
> PostgreSQL
> >>>>> though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can't continue testing such a product. To bad, it looked very good.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards
> >>>>> Simon Glet
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> >>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Asiri,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I currently use the latest version of OO (3.1.1 Build 9420). What
> else
> >>>>>>> can I check ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, you can try un-installing openoffice and reinstalling. But I
> doubt
> >>>>>> this will help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Next thing you can try is use jodconverter directly and try to
> convert
> >>>>> your
> >>>>>> document from odt to html.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is the link:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How to use it:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/jodconverter/wiki/GettingStarted
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If the command-line conversion fails for your document, then the
> error
> >>>>>> should probably be reported to jodconverter users list.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Asiri
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>> Simon Glet
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Asiri Rathnayake
> >>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As you have understood it seems the problem is with your OOo
> >>>>>>> installation.
> >>>>>>>> Can you try removing your existing OOo installation and installing
> the
> >>>>>>>> latest version from http://www.openoffice.org?  This will most
> >>>>> probably
> >>>>>>> fix
> >>>>>>>> the issue.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - Asiri
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Re: Office import error

Asiri Rathnayake
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Hi,

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Simon Glet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just to end this thread, I upgraded to OpenOffice 3.2.0 from 3.1.1 and
> after creating the missing directory
> (http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XAOFFICE-44), import-export works
> fine. Great !!!
>

I wonder if these issues are caused by lack of admin privileges (looks like
file permission issues). Do you have admin privileges on the xp machine you
are testing on? Anyway, I'll do some tests on a XP SP3 machine to verify
these claims asap.

- Asiri
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